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Waves cause winds, not vice versa?


Over 70% of the earth's surface is ocean. The sea is joined to the ocean. The surface of the water is in a frictional interface with the air, and air and sea currents go in the same direction. Mainstream science says this is because the winds came first, and act upon the sea. Their picture is of a still ocean surface, waiting to see what pressure differences the air generates to cause sea surface waves. But deep sea currents exist and science is slow to explain how far away surface flows induce deep sea currents. The weather textbooks say wind generates waves but ALSO sea surface temperatures affect the atmosphere. Wait - both can't be true at once. Nothing can create its creator. So which is it? The truth is that undersea swells generate the above-sea wind. Simply, storms come from under the boat. It only sounds bizarre because you are hearing it for the first time. This article sets out the case.

Fishermen already know that swells come before wind changes. Boaties know that a big blow can stop at the turn of the tide. Why? This can only be possible if the ocean has an affect on the wind. It is easily proven. To generate waves in a bath-shaped tank one needs an underwater paddle, not an overhead fan. As an experiment, the next time you take a bath, position a lighted candle near the tub, preferably at the end of the bath and close to the centre of the bath width. Slosh your hand beneath the water to create a current that generates surface waves but taking care not to disturb the air by breathing hard or moving anything that would instead create a wind flow above the water surface. The candle will be observed to wave slightly from side to side in synch with your underwater sloshing movements, demonstrating that the waves generate a slight breeze in the bathroom (use a bath with all-around screens).


Huge volumes of water flow through the earth’s oceans. If they are only blown by the wind it does not explain density and temperature gradients at least two kilometres beneath the sea surface and below the atmosphere. Climate alarmists claim that atmospheric heating, blowing, cooling and calming acting on the sea means CO2 emissions can change air and then accordingly the sea, causing sea-levels to rise. But the only thing that can heat the ocean surface is the sun. If the sea-level is to rise it has nothing to do with the air above it. You will not get your bathwater to rise simply by holding a heater above the water. It is more logical that sea surface temperatures (SSTs) affect the behaviour of the adjacent atmosphere. Heat can only go up, not down.

The only thing that can drive ocean currents is the moon. The moon creates deep currents by the land tide beneath the ocean rising and falling each day, underwater earthquakes and thermal vents associated with this ocean floor "breathing", and the rotation of the earth, but that is another article.

Due to the currents at and near the surface, winds form because they are juxtaposed to the ocean, and they flow over the land masses which are interruptions in the sea, and become for those living on these bits of land the prevailing winds, the direction of which is an essential ingredient of the climate of that region. This directionality is caused by the ocean. Just as sound waves are produced by vibrating objects, ocean waves are produced by the oscillations of currents. In the same way that sound activates receivers through induced pressure differences in the receiver, sea waves cause pressure differences in the air which become wind.

Is it possible that winds from elsewhere also generate waves? Yes because the air and sea are interfaced and interconnected.  That they are so interfaced is not explored by climate science. There is an insistence on only the wind causing the waves and it is a bias because it links atmosphere more to ocean than moon to both ocean and air together. So why not the corollary as well, that ocean directly affects the air above it? Otherwise there is only a one-way connection. We know there has to be a communication between sea and air for evaporation to form rain and then for the same rain to return. Science already accepts that there exists a continually vibrant and mutual interaction.

Surfers calculate that the stronger the wind the better the waves. Onshore winds are a surfer's worst enemy because strong wind blowing off the sea seems to blow waves flat and make them misshaped and messy.  Offshore winds are what they seek as they seem to hold up a wave and provide a clean surfable face and maintain or grow the wave's height. But could it not be that the currents and swells precede these winds?

You will never hear a mariner say a violent storm was going on whilst they were on a flat sea. Usually, a flat sea accompanies a high pressure system. We have been told so often now that it is virtually unquestioned fact, that higher air pressure pushes the sea flat. But the way that works is that a flatter sea, if that came first, would allow more stable air to gather and consolidate over it, exerting more pressure. It has been further observed that the deeper a low pressure system is in the air, the faster the wind blows, imparting more energy, and the longer the wind blows over the same area the bigger seem to be the swells. But wait - if currents increase in the deep then waves will increase at the surface and disturb the air over long distances, enough to generate those faster winds. It is bad science that does not also consider alternative explanations.

The "fetch" is the surfer's name for the area of ocean that the wind is blowing over.  It is thought that the greater the area of wind blowing in the same direction the more energy is released.  Large storm systems can cover hundreds or thousands of miles of open ocean, but so do systems of currents. A weather chart may show a deep low pressure system passing beneath NZ, as a sizeable swell pushes up the west coast and becomes the famed Surf Highway 45 Taranaki surfing spot. Strong winds will always accompany a swell and places far enough away not to be affected by the winds will also eventually receive a decent groundswell.

Fishermen have noticed that the direction in which the wind is blowing has a major impact on the behaviour and feeding habits of sea fish. When there is an onshore wind coming off the sea it is thought that the wind stirs up the seabed by whipping up waves, which will disturb marine worms out of their burrow, dislodge shellfish such as mussels, limpets and cockles from their home on rocks and force small fish, crabs and other forms of marine life out of weed beds. This creates a feast for fish and they will move inshore into shallower water to take advantage of the food which has become available. The churning up of the seabed apparently caused by an onshore wind also leads to the sea becoming more coloured which improves the conditions for fishing through the day.

But surely the currents come first? How could a surface wind affect the seabed? Surface currents do not transmit downwards to deep levels. Again, try it yourself in the bath. Put some sand along the bottom and then splash along the surface and see if the sand moves. Now place floating things on the surface and generate underwater currents with your hand and see if the floating things are affected. Which moves more? There is no question that the energy transmission in the ocean is always upwards. It means that onshore and offshore winds are more likely to be created by currents and swells than vice versa. It would be reasonable to conclude that a clear day indicates little wind because the sea is calm, indicating deeper currents have lessened. Deep sea fish may look forward to still tides because small creatures may emerge from nooks and crannies.

Deep ocean currents are a fact but science does not link them to winds. Seismic activity generates ocean currents, and earthquakes are waves through solid rock. It is not likely that ocean currents go downwards to generate earthquakes, and we already know that some shakes originate up to 400kms below the seafloor. It is more likely that the wave regimes that earthquakes are part of, transmit through rock to vibrate the ocean floor enough to generate the ocean currents and on into the air via oscillating waves to generate unstable airflows. The coincidental occurrence of larger earthquakes around full moons and perigees, together with stronger currents and kingtides, and as well tropical cyclones that form around these times, attest to this connection, and point to the moon and larger gravitational forces responsible for all three.

So when it comes to what happens at sea and in the air above the sea it is more feasible that ocean currents are more in charge, rather than the surface winds. Currents increase or reduce temperatures depending on whether they flow from the equator or from the poles. Globally currents flow from poles to the equator, cold flowing to warm, yet atmospheric-engine-science claims that winds flow from warm to cold. This cannot be. Coastal areas are cooler and wetter than inland areas. Clouds form when warm air from inland meets cool air from the sea, which is why when we look out plane windows we see cloud bands along coastlines, fed continually from the sea.   

The centres of continents are subject to a large range of temperatures.  Winds blow from the cooler sea bringing rain to the coast and drier weather inland. The reason the interior of Australia is so dry is because it is beyond water sources and clouds do not travel far before dropping rain loads. For the inland deserts in summer, temperatures can be very hot and dry as moisture from the sea evaporates before it reaches the centre of the land mass.

Oceanic navigators who monitor SSTs know this to be a more reliable weather predictor than isobaric maps, because sea-surface temperatures change before changes in air pressure, which gives warning of storms before they happen. SSTs within 6-degrees latitude of the equator warmed by the summer sun to 26°C -28°C over a wide ocean area cause tropical cyclones to form, because warmed air produces more evaporation. Heat from warmer water can significantly modify an air mass over 35-40 kilometres.

SSTs are not only indicators of developing cyclones, but also sea fog and sea breezes. Sea surface cooling is observed after the passing of a tropical cyclone, so mariners can predict when a bad system may be about to weaken. Slightly lower SSTs indicate breezy conditions, changing as calm approaches. On calmer days, SSTs can vary by up to 6°C.

Winds that accompany currents under the Australian Bight and which blow to NZ mix with low pressure fronts from the Southern Ocean and are cooler.  The highs and lows of our weather system are carried along this westerly flow.  Extreme and faster westerlies pass under us, the fact of which is a driving force of our climate. Our depressions (areas of low-pressure likely to cause clouds and rain) mostly develop in this westerly system.

Weather that comes down the Tasman Sea from north Queensland is warm and moist. It strikes the southern westerly flow and is deflected back up and over NZ, losing strength and dissipating to our northeast. Near the equator the winds are easterly or south-easterly, because the currents mostly flow from the east (La Nina) and only sometimes from the west (El Nino).

The main ocean current that affects the UK is the Gulf Stream, which brings warm equatorial water northwards.  The current cold UK winter can be blamed on changes in ocean surface temperature. The moon, the source of sea current energy, was at its furthest point north, the northern declination on 19 March. After each lunar northern declination Arctic currents and polar winds descend. This time they coupled with apogee which slowed the currents giving them more time to cool.

Snowstorms result when bands of very cold air from the poles collide with warm air, which rises quickly and the cold air cuts underneath it. The sudden warmth causes huge cloud banks, leading to heavy snowfalls. The stronger the temperature decrease with height, the taller the clouds get, and the greater the precipitation rate. If temperatures get too high snowflakes melt as they fall, turning them into rain or sleet.

While the UK has more winter snow to come, Ireland is warmed more by the Gulf Stream and moves into milder spring temperatures when this April begins. The uninterrupted currents through the Australian Bight produce swells and storms that the surfers love. The southwesterlies from these currents bring weather to NZ. Snows and frosts in NZ arrive when a perigeal winter moon is at or near southern declination, because that is the lunar condition for the strongest undersea currents to be generated.

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